(03/29 21:03:07) Dni_seeker 5: hello
(03/29 21:03:15) Jules Lavisham: Ah, shorah there DS5
(03/29 21:03:38) Dni_seeker 5: Heard there's going to be a special guest today
(03/29 21:04:04) Jules Lavisham: Oh really?
(03/29 21:04:39) Dni_seeker 5: yes, but Calum wouldn't tell me who.
(03/29 21:05:04) Jules Lavisham: Interesting! News to me.
Calum links in.
(03/29 21:06:13) Calum Traveler: shorah all
(03/29 21:06:28) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Cal!
(03/29 21:06:34) Jules Lavisham: Just getting set up
(03/29 21:06:41) Calum Traveler: gimme a min
(03/29 21:06:47) Calum Traveler: just got out of fil live
(03/29 21:06:53) Calum Traveler: need to take care of some stuff real quick
(03/29 21:07:02) Jules Lavisham: Righty ho
(03/29 21:07:06) Dni_seeker 5: how's Naybree?
(03/29 21:07:31) Dni_seeker 5: still working on that beach?
(03/29 21:07:58) Jules Lavisham flicks through his notes
(03/29 21:09:43) Calum Traveler: back
(03/29 21:10:07) Calum Traveler: no, beach is on hold. somethings happening geologically and i dont want to open the beach before we know whats going on
(03/29 21:10:24) Dni_seeker 5: Hello
(03/29 21:10:31) [BUDDIES] From Calum Traveler in Great Tree's(3) Hood: TOWN HALL in 20 min.
(03/29 21:10:37) Jules Lavisham: Suits me. Gives me a chance to pick out a suitable towel.
(03/29 21:11:06) Jules Lavisham: It's the kind of decision a gentleman does not take lightly, after all.
(03/29 21:11:16) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Semjay!
(03/29 21:11:22) Semjay: Hello
(03/29 21:11:59) Calum Traveler: shorah semjay
(03/29 21:15:48) Jules Lavisham passes his prepared notes to Calum
(03/29 21:15:55) Jules Lavisham: Anything more we need to cover tonight?
(03/29 21:15:55) Calum Traveler reviews them...
(03/29 21:16:12) Dni_seeker 5: oh, uh, how's Ben?
(03/29 21:16:15) Calum Traveler: ah, yeah, we've got a guest coming in tonight.
(03/29 21:16:29) Calum Traveler: Ami finally reached out about wanting to speak
(03/29 21:16:52) Dni_seeker 5: AHA! So that's who that guest you were telling me about is.
(03/29 21:16:54) Jules Lavisham: Oh!
(03/29 21:17:08) Jules Lavisham: Right, right. Blimey.
(03/29 21:17:16) Calum Traveler: not the best time for a heart to heart, but shes willing to talk here since it'd be the best chance to get things out in the open
(03/29 21:17:46) Jules Lavisham: I suppose we're due a bit of a clearing of the air.
(03/29 21:17:50) Calum Traveler: honestly, the message caught me by surprise
(03/29 21:17:56) Dni_seeker 5: Well, I've been waiting for a chance to talk to her... I have a question for her.
(03/29 21:18:05) Calum Traveler: well, we'll-
Ami links in.
(03/29 21:18:10) Dni_seeker 5: !!!
(03/29 21:18:13) Dni_seeker 5: hello
(03/29 21:18:13) Calum Traveler: lets just save that for the actual town hall yeah?
(03/29 21:19:38) Calum Traveler glances at the doorways
(03/29 21:19:45) Calum Traveler: dont be shy now, we dont bite!
(03/29 21:20:05) Jules Lavisham: Ami? It's ok, feel free to come up.
(03/29 21:20:16) Calum Traveler waves hello
(03/29 21:20:20) Jules Lavisham waves hello
(03/29 21:20:34) Ami Renee Glessad: um. Hi.
(03/29 21:20:47) Ami Renee Glessad: sorry, i'm. this is all still a bit nervewracking.
(03/29 21:20:52) Jules Lavisham: Shorah, Ami.
(03/29 21:21:04) Dni_seeker 5: oh, there you are.
(03/29 21:21:26) Dni_seeker 5: Dni_seeker 5, at your service.
(03/29 21:21:40) Ami Renee Glessad: um. i dont think i need any?
(03/29 21:21:59) Dni_seeker 5: It's just an expression...
(03/29 21:22:08) Ami Renee Glessad: oh. right. sorry. forgot.
(03/29 21:22:18) Calum Traveler: we all have our moments.
(03/29 21:22:21) BatPrad: service and clientice... server and client...
(03/29 21:22:26) Jules Lavisham chuckles
(03/29 21:22:34) Dni_seeker 5: ?
(03/29 21:22:50) Jules Lavisham: Glad you could make it, Ami. How've you been?
(03/29 21:22:53) BatPrad: oh I think that's ALotOfs domain... he's the nerd...
(03/29 21:23:04) Ami Renee Glessad: I've been worse.
(03/29 21:23:25) Ami Renee Glessad: atleast im not crashing in a kleptomaniacs house anymore.
(03/29 21:23:33) Dni_seeker 5: Casey?
(03/29 21:23:38) Calum Traveler snorts
(03/29 21:23:42) Ami Renee Glessad: yes.
(03/29 21:23:54) Ami Renee Glessad: he rarely used it for anything but storing his ill gotten gains...
(03/29 21:23:54) Jules Lavisham: Most things are indeed a step up from that, agreed.
(03/29 21:24:11) Ami Renee Glessad fidgits with her bangs, and tucks a loose strand under her hat.
(03/29 21:24:20) Dni_seeker 5: Garden gnomes gone missing...
(03/29 21:24:27) Ami Renee Glessad: That Gnome was terrifying.
(03/29 21:24:43) Ami Renee Glessad: It was like it was gazing into my soul.
(03/29 21:24:49) Ami Renee Glessad: That was the *first* thing I returned.
(03/29 21:24:53) Jules Lavisham: I've met a few Gnomes in my time, they usually are.
(03/29 21:24:59) Dni_seeker 5 holds back a chuckle... "terrifying" is not the first word he would have used.
(03/29 21:25:02) Jules Lavisham: Until you get to know them, that is.
(03/29 21:25:18) Ami Renee Glessad flinches
(03/29 21:25:24) Ami Renee Glessad: i'd rather not.
(03/29 21:25:39) Jules Lavisham: Hehe.
(03/29 21:25:41) Calum Traveler: well, no gnomes here at this town hall.
(03/29 21:25:44) BatPrad shrugs
(03/29 21:25:51) Jules Lavisham: None on the guest list, that is.
(03/29 21:26:10) Ami Renee Glessad: I'll... take what I can get.
(03/29 21:26:15) Ami Renee Glessad: I suppose.
(03/29 21:26:35) Ami Renee Glessad: I. Um. I'm sorry for shoving you over, Mr. Traveler.
(03/29 21:26:46) Dni_seeker 5: I still cannot believe that Dr. Quinlan forgave Logan's deception...
(03/29 21:26:50) BatPrad doesn't remember having strumbled upon garden gnomes in the city...
(03/29 21:27:03) Jules Lavisham unscrews the cap from his thermos and pours something warm into it
(03/29 21:27:05) Calum Traveler: ...well, it's all water under the bridge, I think.
(03/29 21:27:08) Dni_seeker 5: he trapped him in his own Minkata, for crying out loud!
(03/29 21:27:23) Ami Renee Glessad: Believe it or not, Logan's the angel of his family.
(03/29 21:27:34) Dni_seeker 5: Um... what?
(03/29 21:27:41) Ami Renee Glessad: his Siblings are worse.
(03/29 21:27:42) Jules Lavisham takes a pleasant sip
(03/29 21:27:47) Ami Renee Glessad: far. far. Far. worse.
(03/29 21:27:54) Ami Renee Glessad shakes her head, visibly angry.
(03/29 21:28:23) Ereshkigal: Hi everyone!
(03/29 21:28:32) Jules Lavisham: Quick nip before we get started, Cal? Jelly and Ice Cream tea.
(03/29 21:28:39) Ami Renee Glessad: I. I'd rather wait to talk about that later. When Tenny's here, if he shows up.
(03/29 21:28:43) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Eresh!
(03/29 21:28:58) Calum Traveler: uhhh.... ice cream *tea*??
(03/29 21:29:34) Jules Lavisham: Mainly dried fruits, vanilla pieces, that sort of thing.
(03/29 21:29:47) Calum Traveler: ...no thanks, my stomachs been upset enough this week.
(03/29 21:30:04) Jules Lavisham: Trying to get off the caffienated stuff. Becoming a little too dependent on it for my lectures recently.
(03/29 21:30:25) Jules Lavisham: Ah, fair. Sorry to hear that.
(03/29 21:30:29) Calum Traveler: well, if it works for you.
(03/29 21:30:38) Calum Traveler shrugs
(03/29 21:30:38) Calum Traveler: not gonna judge
02/29/23 - March '23 Town Hall
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02/29/23 - March '23 Town Hall
Prof. Jules Lavisham, Lecturer in Classical Civilisations
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Re: 02/29/23 - March '23 Town Hall
(03/29 21:31:01) Calum Traveler: aight its 2:30/14:30
(03/29 21:31:22) Calum Traveler: think we should start on the usual rules?
(03/29 21:31:50) Jules Lavisham: Sounds good. I'll go through my planned talking points, then let you take court.
(03/29 21:32:04) [BUDDIES] From Calum Traveler in Great Tree's(3) Hood: town hall starts in just a few moments. great tree 3 hood.
(03/29 21:32:06) Dni_seeker 5: Sorry about that... sometimes I randomly link back to Relto.
(03/29 21:32:19) Jules Lavisham: Right right!
(03/29 21:32:26) Jules Lavisham coughs
(03/29 21:32:42) Jules Lavisham: Greetings, shorah and welcome everyone!
(03/29 21:32:47) Dni_seeker 5: Hello
(03/29 21:33:11) Jules Lavisham: Good to see you all here for our monthly Town Hall
(03/29 21:33:36) Jules Lavisham: I'll quickly zip through the rules while we wait for anyone else to turn up
(03/29 21:34:03) Jules Lavisham: No pressing the blue button, as per usual
(03/29 21:34:31) Dni_seeker 5: Hello buddy
(03/29 21:34:40) Buddy: Shorah all!
(03/29 21:34:43) Jules Lavisham: Any issues, shoot Cal here a message via KI, we'll address it if it's pertinent
(03/29 21:35:37) Jules Lavisham: Happy to foster a dialogue on anything raised, but try not to derail us too too much
(03/29 21:36:06) Jules Lavisham: Transcripts of tonight's TH will be posted to the relevant section on our Beneath forums
(03/29 21:36:26) Jules Lavisham: which can be found at www.dniexplorer.com/forum
(03/29 21:37:05) Jules Lavisham: Right. All good? Splendid. Off we go, then!
(03/29 21:37:48) Jules Lavisham: So, last Town Hall, we mentioned that we had a bit of a project on to repurpose the Hood Podiums
(03/29 21:38:27) Jules Lavisham: in order to play a new Orientation message recorded by a number of us in the explorer restoration
(03/29 21:38:54) Jules Lavisham: Good news, those messages are all recorded.
(03/29 21:39:25) Jules Lavisham: Bad news is, the podiums are, um... having a few second thoughts about playing them.
(03/29 21:39:27) Calum Traveler: unfortunately the hood podiums have always been a bit more scrambled than the kirel podium was, so theyve been proving to be a bit harder to upload to. we're looking into it for next quarter.
(03/29 21:40:03) BatPrad: D'ni technology.... (sigh)...
(03/29 21:40:08) Calum Traveler: eyuuup.
(03/29 21:40:11) Jules Lavisham: Yes, once again we've been bought low by the lashup of D'ni and surface tech.
(03/29 21:40:34) Jules Lavisham: Goodness knows how Hazado and the others make head nor tail of it all.
(03/29 21:40:50) Calum Traveler: we dont, lol
(03/29 21:40:52) Jules Lavisham: I took one look at the insides of one of them recently and came over all faint.
(03/29 21:41:07) Calum Traveler: its a miracle we get anything working down here
(03/29 21:41:15) Jules Lavisham: It was like a spaghetti dinner gone wrong.
(03/29 21:41:28) Calum Traveler mumbles something about timer buttons and floor elevators.
(03/29 21:41:59) Jules Lavisham: But yes, aiming for that to be up and running for next quarter or thereabouts.
(03/29 21:43:17) Jules Lavisham: Having said that, restoration work on Eder Bahvahnter has been considerably less headache-inducing
(03/29 21:43:43) Calum Traveler: yep, everything there's gone mostly smoothly, if you don't count a few stray puddles where they shouldnt be.
(03/29 21:44:03) Calum Traveler: nothing that'll delay the release though,
(03/29 21:44:23) Jules Lavisham: Nothing that should bring the Health and Safety alarmists out to feed, in any case.
(03/29 21:44:23) Buddy: Fantastic!
(03/29 21:44:50) Buddy: Good work people!
(03/29 21:44:55) Calum Traveler: just bare in mind your feet may get a bit wet in unexpected places, we're looking into if there's a leaky pipe or a crack in a wall...
(03/29 21:44:59) Jules Lavisham: Aiming for a release of that in, oooh... next couple of weeks, Cal?
(03/29 21:45:05) Calum Traveler: somewhere, yes
(03/29 21:45:15) Calum Traveler: i think we're aiming early-to-mid april
(03/29 21:45:52) BatPrad: realized lately the Naybree ladder gotten rid of that tripping hazard... someone has cleaned it up... good work there too...
(03/29 21:45:57) Jules Lavisham: Excellent. And I believe the Linking book will be in Elonin, correct?
(03/29 21:46:01) Calum Traveler: yes,
(03/29 21:46:09) Calum Traveler: itll be somewhere in Elonin
(03/29 21:46:25) Calum Traveler: you should give it a once over incase you've missed a door somewhere.
(03/29 21:46:28) Jules Lavisham: Splendid, splendid. Any more than that would be telling.
(03/29 21:46:37) Calum Traveler: I believe Ametist wants it to be a surprise heh.
(03/29 21:46:58) Calum Traveler: speaking of surprises
(03/29 21:47:24) Calum Traveler: our pal Briggs was digging around in the Tokotah rooftop and found basically all the parts for the old DRC stage
(03/29 21:47:46) Calum Traveler: Hazado has worked his magic and we're confident we can get it operational for events in the future,
(03/29 21:48:03) BatPrad thanks you
(03/29 21:48:10) Calum Traveler: we're not sure yet if it'll just be for events, or if we'll leave it up year round yet,
(03/29 21:48:33) Calum Traveler: depends on whats easiest, long term, i suppose.
(03/29 21:48:45) Calum Traveler: shouldnt obstruct any of the usual tent access though! we've tested hah
(03/29 21:48:59) Calum Traveler: buuut, that brings us to our vote for this week,
(03/29 21:49:28) Calum Traveler: the stage being restored in the Tokotah Plaza makes for a wonderful venue for us to potentially move the town halls to,
(03/29 21:49:42) Calum Traveler: so our votes pretty simple:
(03/29 21:49:51) Calum Traveler: A: Keep the Town Halls here in Great Tree,
(03/29 21:50:03) Calum Traveler: B: Move the Town Halls to Ae'gura to make use of the stage
(03/29 21:50:55) Calum Traveler: any questions?
(03/29 21:51:02) Ereshkigal: I vite B
(03/29 21:51:02) Buddy: Greater chance of having more people participate in the THs if its in a more public setting likte the Plaza.
(03/29 21:51:07) Ereshkigal: *vote
(03/29 21:51:18) Dni_seeker 5: I haven't been to one of these for a while, who to PM
(03/29 21:51:18) Semjay: I vote B too
(03/29 21:51:24) LINDOR: I vote B
(03/29 21:51:42) Buddy: I also vote B.
(03/29 21:51:50) Calum Traveler: usually you DM me for that but i think we're past that now
(03/29 21:51:52) Jules Lavisham: Well, I think we can dispense with the secret ballot on this occasion if you prefer DS5
(03/29 21:52:01) Dni_seeker 5: Okay, if everyone else is doing it publicly, B
(03/29 21:52:12) Dni_seeker 5: I think B won in a landslide
(03/29 21:52:16) Calum Traveler: yeah.
(03/29 21:52:26) Calum Traveler: ill bring the topic up at the AGM this weekend as well
(03/29 21:52:30) Calum Traveler: just to get a wider sample size
(03/29 21:52:39) Calum Traveler: but i thiiink we know what to do there.
(03/29 21:52:39) BatPrad: my belly says A - but I see that a minority anyway now...
(03/29 21:52:47) Jules Lavisham: Right, the B's have it!
(03/29 21:52:50) Calum Traveler: heh
(03/29 21:53:05) Calum Traveler: ill also ask there whether people think it should be active year round or just be for events
(03/29 21:53:20) BatPrad: okay giving TH city a try see how it goes ....
(03/29 21:53:21) Calum Traveler: i think that one is a much bigger question than JUST our town halls here
(03/29 21:53:41) Jules Lavisham: I believe that the original Watson audio message was recorded in Ae'gura way back when,
(03/29 21:53:41) Calum Traveler: i think we can definitely try it once for sure, at the very least.
(03/29 21:53:59) Jules Lavisham: so for me it almost feels like we're coming full circle
(03/29 21:54:14) Dni_seeker 5: okay, that was a bit before my time here...
(03/29 21:54:16) Mike_42: Shorah all
(03/29 21:31:22) Calum Traveler: think we should start on the usual rules?
(03/29 21:31:50) Jules Lavisham: Sounds good. I'll go through my planned talking points, then let you take court.
(03/29 21:32:04) [BUDDIES] From Calum Traveler in Great Tree's(3) Hood: town hall starts in just a few moments. great tree 3 hood.
(03/29 21:32:06) Dni_seeker 5: Sorry about that... sometimes I randomly link back to Relto.
(03/29 21:32:19) Jules Lavisham: Right right!
(03/29 21:32:26) Jules Lavisham coughs
(03/29 21:32:42) Jules Lavisham: Greetings, shorah and welcome everyone!
(03/29 21:32:47) Dni_seeker 5: Hello
(03/29 21:33:11) Jules Lavisham: Good to see you all here for our monthly Town Hall
(03/29 21:33:36) Jules Lavisham: I'll quickly zip through the rules while we wait for anyone else to turn up
(03/29 21:34:03) Jules Lavisham: No pressing the blue button, as per usual
(03/29 21:34:31) Dni_seeker 5: Hello buddy
(03/29 21:34:40) Buddy: Shorah all!
(03/29 21:34:43) Jules Lavisham: Any issues, shoot Cal here a message via KI, we'll address it if it's pertinent
(03/29 21:35:37) Jules Lavisham: Happy to foster a dialogue on anything raised, but try not to derail us too too much
(03/29 21:36:06) Jules Lavisham: Transcripts of tonight's TH will be posted to the relevant section on our Beneath forums
(03/29 21:36:26) Jules Lavisham: which can be found at www.dniexplorer.com/forum
(03/29 21:37:05) Jules Lavisham: Right. All good? Splendid. Off we go, then!
(03/29 21:37:48) Jules Lavisham: So, last Town Hall, we mentioned that we had a bit of a project on to repurpose the Hood Podiums
(03/29 21:38:27) Jules Lavisham: in order to play a new Orientation message recorded by a number of us in the explorer restoration
(03/29 21:38:54) Jules Lavisham: Good news, those messages are all recorded.
(03/29 21:39:25) Jules Lavisham: Bad news is, the podiums are, um... having a few second thoughts about playing them.
(03/29 21:39:27) Calum Traveler: unfortunately the hood podiums have always been a bit more scrambled than the kirel podium was, so theyve been proving to be a bit harder to upload to. we're looking into it for next quarter.
(03/29 21:40:03) BatPrad: D'ni technology.... (sigh)...
(03/29 21:40:08) Calum Traveler: eyuuup.
(03/29 21:40:11) Jules Lavisham: Yes, once again we've been bought low by the lashup of D'ni and surface tech.
(03/29 21:40:34) Jules Lavisham: Goodness knows how Hazado and the others make head nor tail of it all.
(03/29 21:40:50) Calum Traveler: we dont, lol
(03/29 21:40:52) Jules Lavisham: I took one look at the insides of one of them recently and came over all faint.
(03/29 21:41:07) Calum Traveler: its a miracle we get anything working down here
(03/29 21:41:15) Jules Lavisham: It was like a spaghetti dinner gone wrong.
(03/29 21:41:28) Calum Traveler mumbles something about timer buttons and floor elevators.
(03/29 21:41:59) Jules Lavisham: But yes, aiming for that to be up and running for next quarter or thereabouts.
(03/29 21:43:17) Jules Lavisham: Having said that, restoration work on Eder Bahvahnter has been considerably less headache-inducing
(03/29 21:43:43) Calum Traveler: yep, everything there's gone mostly smoothly, if you don't count a few stray puddles where they shouldnt be.
(03/29 21:44:03) Calum Traveler: nothing that'll delay the release though,
(03/29 21:44:23) Jules Lavisham: Nothing that should bring the Health and Safety alarmists out to feed, in any case.
(03/29 21:44:23) Buddy: Fantastic!
(03/29 21:44:50) Buddy: Good work people!
(03/29 21:44:55) Calum Traveler: just bare in mind your feet may get a bit wet in unexpected places, we're looking into if there's a leaky pipe or a crack in a wall...
(03/29 21:44:59) Jules Lavisham: Aiming for a release of that in, oooh... next couple of weeks, Cal?
(03/29 21:45:05) Calum Traveler: somewhere, yes
(03/29 21:45:15) Calum Traveler: i think we're aiming early-to-mid april
(03/29 21:45:52) BatPrad: realized lately the Naybree ladder gotten rid of that tripping hazard... someone has cleaned it up... good work there too...
(03/29 21:45:57) Jules Lavisham: Excellent. And I believe the Linking book will be in Elonin, correct?
(03/29 21:46:01) Calum Traveler: yes,
(03/29 21:46:09) Calum Traveler: itll be somewhere in Elonin
(03/29 21:46:25) Calum Traveler: you should give it a once over incase you've missed a door somewhere.
(03/29 21:46:28) Jules Lavisham: Splendid, splendid. Any more than that would be telling.
(03/29 21:46:37) Calum Traveler: I believe Ametist wants it to be a surprise heh.
(03/29 21:46:58) Calum Traveler: speaking of surprises
(03/29 21:47:24) Calum Traveler: our pal Briggs was digging around in the Tokotah rooftop and found basically all the parts for the old DRC stage
(03/29 21:47:46) Calum Traveler: Hazado has worked his magic and we're confident we can get it operational for events in the future,
(03/29 21:48:03) BatPrad thanks you
(03/29 21:48:10) Calum Traveler: we're not sure yet if it'll just be for events, or if we'll leave it up year round yet,
(03/29 21:48:33) Calum Traveler: depends on whats easiest, long term, i suppose.
(03/29 21:48:45) Calum Traveler: shouldnt obstruct any of the usual tent access though! we've tested hah
(03/29 21:48:59) Calum Traveler: buuut, that brings us to our vote for this week,
(03/29 21:49:28) Calum Traveler: the stage being restored in the Tokotah Plaza makes for a wonderful venue for us to potentially move the town halls to,
(03/29 21:49:42) Calum Traveler: so our votes pretty simple:
(03/29 21:49:51) Calum Traveler: A: Keep the Town Halls here in Great Tree,
(03/29 21:50:03) Calum Traveler: B: Move the Town Halls to Ae'gura to make use of the stage
(03/29 21:50:55) Calum Traveler: any questions?
(03/29 21:51:02) Ereshkigal: I vite B
(03/29 21:51:02) Buddy: Greater chance of having more people participate in the THs if its in a more public setting likte the Plaza.
(03/29 21:51:07) Ereshkigal: *vote
(03/29 21:51:18) Dni_seeker 5: I haven't been to one of these for a while, who to PM
(03/29 21:51:18) Semjay: I vote B too
(03/29 21:51:24) LINDOR: I vote B
(03/29 21:51:42) Buddy: I also vote B.
(03/29 21:51:50) Calum Traveler: usually you DM me for that but i think we're past that now
(03/29 21:51:52) Jules Lavisham: Well, I think we can dispense with the secret ballot on this occasion if you prefer DS5
(03/29 21:52:01) Dni_seeker 5: Okay, if everyone else is doing it publicly, B
(03/29 21:52:12) Dni_seeker 5: I think B won in a landslide
(03/29 21:52:16) Calum Traveler: yeah.
(03/29 21:52:26) Calum Traveler: ill bring the topic up at the AGM this weekend as well
(03/29 21:52:30) Calum Traveler: just to get a wider sample size
(03/29 21:52:39) Calum Traveler: but i thiiink we know what to do there.
(03/29 21:52:39) BatPrad: my belly says A - but I see that a minority anyway now...
(03/29 21:52:47) Jules Lavisham: Right, the B's have it!
(03/29 21:52:50) Calum Traveler: heh
(03/29 21:53:05) Calum Traveler: ill also ask there whether people think it should be active year round or just be for events
(03/29 21:53:20) BatPrad: okay giving TH city a try see how it goes ....
(03/29 21:53:21) Calum Traveler: i think that one is a much bigger question than JUST our town halls here
(03/29 21:53:41) Jules Lavisham: I believe that the original Watson audio message was recorded in Ae'gura way back when,
(03/29 21:53:41) Calum Traveler: i think we can definitely try it once for sure, at the very least.
(03/29 21:53:59) Jules Lavisham: so for me it almost feels like we're coming full circle
(03/29 21:54:14) Dni_seeker 5: okay, that was a bit before my time here...
(03/29 21:54:16) Mike_42: Shorah all
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Re: 02/29/23 - March '23 Town Hall
(03/29 21:54:19) Calum Traveler: so, that's the end of the usual scripted stuff... i think it's time we let our guest here speak a bit.
(03/29 21:54:25) Buddy: Shorah Mike
(03/29 21:54:26) Calum Traveler: shorah, mike
(03/29 21:54:39) Jules Lavisham: Shorah, Mike! We're up in the auditorium.
(03/29 21:54:48) Calum Traveler: what do you think, jules? any objection to shifting to QNA mode?
(03/29 21:55:02) Jules Lavisham: Not at all, that's everything I had planned.
(03/29 21:55:23) Ami Renee Glessad: um.
(03/29 21:55:23) Dni_seeker 5 wants to ask a question...
(03/29 21:55:25) Ami Renee Glessad: Hi.
(03/29 21:55:27) Jules Lavisham: Stage is yours, Ami.
(03/29 21:55:49) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm Ami Renee Glessad. I guess a few of you... um, know me pretty well by reputation at this point.
(03/29 21:56:35) Ami Renee Glessad: I was someone who fell in with a bad crowd and they, well, they were causing quite some trouble as you know.
(03/29 21:56:43) Ami Renee Glessad: The "True Seeds"
(03/29 21:57:08) Dni_seeker 5: i remember
(03/29 21:57:12) Ami Renee Glessad: And, I... Um. I confronted them back in December. I recognize some of you from then.
(03/29 21:57:15) BatPrad: yeah - remember that escalation in naybree...
(03/29 21:57:29) Ami Renee Glessad: Thank you for coming to that, by the way. I know it was... A Lot.
(03/29 21:57:39) Ami Renee Glessad: But it did help steady my resolve a bit.
(03/29 21:57:51) Ami Renee Glessad: So. Um. Questions?
(03/29 21:57:58) Dni_seeker 5: yes
(03/29 21:58:02) Mike_42 waves hello
(03/29 21:58:16) Dni_seeker 5: have you ever heard of Benavud?
(03/29 21:58:24) Ami Renee Glessad: Ben... yes and no.
(03/29 21:58:32) Dni_seeker 5: Huh?
(03/29 21:58:36) Ami Renee Glessad: At the time, I didn't know about him.
(03/29 21:59:02) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan and I were doing our own things at the time. We'd come down to D'ni to get away from our lives on the surface.
(03/29 21:59:15) Ami Renee Glessad: It's how we ended up meeting up with Harlan and his New Seed, in the end.
(03/29 21:59:43) Ami Renee Glessad: And, around the time that Logan was becoming "Rafe" due to that stupid D'ni cold he picked up...
(03/29 21:59:59) Ami Renee Glessad: Honestly, we kinda were... not really talking much. I think we were just drifting our own ways.
(03/29 22:00:15) Ami Renee Glessad: So, I didn't really learn about any of that until recently, comparatively speaking.
(03/29 22:00:25) Dni_seeker 5: so you didn't know that there was a full-blooded D'ni here.
(03/29 22:00:36) Ami Renee Glessad: I didn't, no.
(03/29 22:00:50) Ami Renee Glessad: And from what little Logan told me before he got pulled out of the hospital, I don't think he knew either.
(03/29 22:01:05) Ami Renee Glessad: Mind you, I didn't know it was *Ben* he was talking about
(03/29 22:01:14) Ami Renee Glessad: just 'a friend who forgot about me'
(03/29 22:01:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I should've put the pieces together, but... hindsight.
(03/29 22:01:59) Dni_seeker 5: "Forgot about him"... that seems like a very extreme punishment for "forgetting".
(03/29 22:02:02) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm not too certain of the whole timing of when Ben and Logan met. Or when any of that happened. Logan wasn't forthcoming other than that they fought, and that he said and did things that he regreted after.
(03/29 22:02:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I think he said that meaning that Ben's amnesia had made him forget? but....
(03/29 22:02:31) Ami Renee Glessad shrugs
(03/29 22:02:57) Ami Renee Glessad: the whole Ben thing just made me want to talk to Logan again after I heard about it, but... well. His siblings put a stop to that before I could.
(03/29 22:03:28) Mike_42: Well I hope none of u hold it against me, but I will forget most of u and the game..... but I will continue to try to keep things noted and in my head.... Off to other lands, take care
(03/29 22:03:30) BatPrad: well it was more a 'trauma amnesia' than a physical brain damage one we learned the other day...
(03/29 22:03:34) Dni_seeker 5: "Rafael Templeton" trapped Logan in his/their Relto (I'm still not sure how they shared a Relto) and he tortured a Bahro in front of him.
(03/29 22:03:47) Dni_seeker 5: then he destroyed all the Linking Books out of Relto.
(03/29 22:03:59) Ami Renee Glessad looks confused for a moment
(03/29 22:04:05) Ami Renee Glessad: How could Logan trap himself?
(03/29 22:04:14) Dni_seeker 5: no wait not logan Ben
(03/29 22:04:16) Ami Renee Glessad: Rafael was one of Logan's aliases.
(03/29 22:04:25) Dni_seeker 5: Ben was the one who got trapped
(03/29 22:04:36) Dni_seeker 5: wait "one of" as in there's more than one?
(03/29 22:04:45) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan Marcus is *technically* not his full name.
(03/29 22:05:00) Ami Renee Glessad: It's his first and middle name, and he had it legally changed to be his first and last,
(03/29 22:05:17) Dni_seeker 5: what was his actual surname?
(03/29 22:05:22) Ami Renee Glessad: He, ah. Really didn't want to be known as Logan Masters.
(03/29 22:05:44) Ami Renee Glessad: Like I said earlier, before the Town Hall, Logan's the angel of his family.
(03/29 22:05:48) Dni_seeker 5: "Logan Masters"? huh...
(03/29 22:06:00) Calum Traveler: angel huh?
(03/29 22:06:14) Jules Lavisham: The implications of that are... disturbing.
(03/29 22:06:33) Ami Renee Glessad: His brother and sister pulled him out of a hospital against medical advice
(03/29 22:06:39) Dni_seeker 5: anyway, did you hear what I said? He tortured a Bahro and made Ben watch. He trapped Ben in Relto. How is that an "angel"?
(03/29 22:07:01) BatPrad: people can change charater strongy during life depending on circumstances... for me not totally impossible to have a 'fallen angel' there...
(03/29 22:07:02) Ami Renee Glessad: comparatively speaking, Logan is a down right saint when you look at his family.
(03/29 22:07:07) BatPrad: *character*
(03/29 22:07:12) Ami Renee Glessad: im not saying he didn't do bad things
(03/29 22:07:13) Ami Renee Glessad: but...
(03/29 22:07:18) Ami Renee Glessad: those pale in comparison.
(03/29 22:07:24) Ami Renee Glessad shudders
(03/29 22:07:40) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan and I were friends for a long time.
(03/29 22:07:46) Dni_seeker 5: Like what? Are the others total psychopaths?
(03/29 22:07:59) Ereshkigal: Why are they like that?
(03/29 22:08:07) Ami Renee Glessad: I have this one memory of Roman- Logan's brother.
(03/29 22:08:29) Ami Renee Glessad: It was.... oh around one of those financial crisies that seem to always happen around rich folks.
(03/29 22:08:56) Ami Renee Glessad: And he... he *laughed* at a news report of people losing their jobs.
(03/29 22:09:04) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't want to repeat the things he said.
(03/29 22:09:06) Ami Renee Glessad: It was horrible.
(03/29 22:09:51) Ami Renee Glessad: The standard 'rich people disconnect' sort of thing... It's...
(03/29 22:10:22) Ami Renee Glessad: Let me put it this way. I've spent the last several weeks since Logan got taken out of the hospital checking every single Estate that I know the Masters family owns.
(03/29 22:10:34) Ami Renee Glessad: He wasn't at *any* of them. And neither were his siblings.
(03/29 22:10:52) Ami Renee Glessad: The only people who were there were the bi-weekly cleaning crews, and they'd not seen anyone in months.
(03/29 22:11:08) Dni_seeker 5: alright, this sounds like a kidnapping
(03/29 22:11:12) Ami Renee Glessad: I ran out of places that I knew they owned. Which leaves places I don't know they own, which could be anything.
(03/29 22:11:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm worried, but I know Logan.
(03/29 22:11:37) Ami Renee Glessad: the minute he can get away, he will come back, and I'll be waiting here for him.
(03/29 22:11:44) BatPrad: ah - it's called 'post box company' or such (if thats the cortrect term) a company which mainly just exists in some papers...
(03/29 22:11:55) Ami Renee Glessad: unfortunately, there's a lot.
(03/29 22:12:36) Calum Traveler: who's the other sibling?
(03/29 22:12:48) Ami Renee Glessad: Violet Masters.
(03/29 22:13:01) Calum Traveler thinks for a moment...
(03/29 22:13:27) Ereshkigal: I need to link out again. Ami, all the best!! I hope you can find peace in this confusion, and I wish all the best for Logan. I will eep following what goes on here, and I'll keep an eye out for him.
(03/29 22:13:35) Calum Traveler: later, eresh.
(03/29 22:13:39) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you
(03/29 22:13:42) Jules Lavisham: Take care, Eresh.
(03/29 22:13:49) Dni_seeker 5: Calum, what is it? Do you KNOW this "Violet"?
(03/29 22:13:53) Calum Traveler: I think I remember hearing that name before,
(03/29 22:14:06) Ereshkigal waves goodbye
(03/29 22:14:25) Calum Traveler: one of those rich socialite types?
(03/29 22:14:33) BatPrad: so the Logan, Roman and Violet shamrock...
(03/29 22:14:33) Ami Renee Glessad nods her head
(03/29 22:15:23) Calum Traveler: Yeah, I came across that name in passing when I was looking into something a while back.
(03/29 22:15:47) Dni_seeker 5: looking into what?
(03/29 22:15:55) Calum Traveler: something surface related,
(03/29 22:16:20) Calum Traveler: was looking into people who were backing some stupid legislative bills. politics, id rather not get into it.
(03/29 22:16:32) Calum Traveler: made sense for a rich person to do, though. they always seem the type.
(03/29 22:16:40) Jules Lavisham grimaces
(03/29 22:16:44) BatPrad: reminds me on my own family... I differ in character from my brother and sister... not that they're bad siblings... they just share a dominant character trait I don't have...
(03/29 22:17:48) Ami Renee Glessad: Um. Does anyone want to ask anything else about my time in the Seeds, or is that... enough for now?
(03/29 22:18:39) Buddy: I'm just numb trying to absorb it all.
(03/29 22:18:41) Calum Traveler: if nobody has anything, ive got a few questions.
(03/29 22:18:41) Dni_seeker 5: I think that's it
(03/29 22:18:48) Dni_seeker 5: Okay
(03/29 22:18:53) Ami Renee Glessad: alright.
(03/29 22:18:58) BatPrad: are there more cult dropout people apart from you and ben and a handful...?
(03/29 22:19:24) Ami Renee Glessad: um... from Logan's splinter?
(03/29 22:19:33) BatPrad: yes
(03/29 22:19:58) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't think anyone other than Sansa, Marcus, Casey, Tati, and Tally were ever working with us.
(03/29 22:20:11) BatPrad: ah okay...
(03/29 22:20:27) Ami Renee Glessad: Mind you, Tati and Tally seemed to have their own thing going on, so I couldn't say for sure, but I never interacted with anyone else under the true seeds banner.
(03/29 22:20:56) Calum Traveler: What was that whole overflow station thing about?
(03/29 22:21:06) Ami Renee Glessad grimaces...
(03/29 22:21:20) Buddy: As this is all news to me, what was the goal of The Seeds?
(03/29 22:21:34) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan's goal? kick everyone out of the cavern to let it lie.
(03/29 22:21:45) Ami Renee Glessad: Nobody was really 'fit' to be in D'ni by his mind's eye.
(03/29 22:21:55) Dni_seeker 5: even Ben?
(03/29 22:22:01) Ami Renee Glessad: nobody, not even pure D'ni
(03/29 22:22:15) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan was adamant that this place shouldn't be inhabited. Like a grave site.
(03/29 22:22:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I never thought he'd actually start trying to do anything about it.
(03/29 22:22:34) Ami Renee Glessad crosses her arms...
(03/29 22:22:36) BatPrad: a radical goal of a fanatic cult circle...
(03/29 22:22:43) Ami Renee Glessad: the others didn't know any of that,
(03/29 22:22:45) Dni_seeker 5: Sounds like crazy Exile Atrus
(03/29 22:23:03) Ami Renee Glessad: Tati might've had an idea, but he was twisting Logan's mind around so much...
(03/29 22:23:07) Ami Renee Glessad shakes her head
(03/29 22:23:16) Jules Lavisham: It did strike me as something that, at its concept, was unworkable from the start
(03/29 22:23:42) Dni_seeker 5: So, as Calum said, what was the Overflow Station thing all about?
(03/29 22:23:44) Ami Renee Glessad: It was because of his whispered words and Logan being sick from that D'ni cold or flu or whatever it was, that everything got so twisted up.
(03/29 22:23:49) Buddy: Extremists (of any type) will be the downfall of us all.
(03/29 22:24:04) Ami Renee Glessad: The Overflow Station... all of that was...
(03/29 22:24:37) Ami Renee Glessad: I think Tati's goal there- and it WAS Tati's plan- was to try to demoralize people
(03/29 22:24:58) Ami Renee Glessad: there wasn't any reason to it. he just... wanted to break stuff to keep things from getting better.
(03/29 22:25:16) Ami Renee Glessad: all of that nonsense. all of that escalation, that was him pressuring things and trying to get the others riled up and...
(03/29 22:25:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I've had a long time to think about it,
(03/29 22:25:39) Ami Renee Glessad: but back then all I could think was "this isn't right?"
(03/29 22:25:53) Ami Renee Glessad: What's the point of taking over the cavern if we've destroyed equipment necessary to keep it alive?
(03/29 22:26:10) Ami Renee Glessad: so... I went in and I tried to fix what they broke.
(03/29 22:26:31) Calum Traveler: and then I caught you and startled you enough you shoved me over as you ran.
(03/29 22:26:43) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm really, really, *really* sorry about that.
(03/29 22:26:51) Dni_seeker 5: But that wasn't you in the Maintainer Suit, right?
(03/29 22:26:56) Ami Renee Glessad: I wasn't in a good headspace at all back then.
(03/29 22:27:00) Ami Renee Glessad: Maintainer Suit?
(03/29 22:27:05) Ami Renee Glessad: I've never had a maintainer suit.
(03/29 22:27:22) BatPrad: oh
(03/29 22:27:55) Dni_seeker 5: I heard that some jerk in a Maintainer Suit tried to break into the Overflow Station at some point
(03/29 22:28:00) Ami Renee Glessad looks at Calum
(03/29 22:28:16) Calum Traveler: yeah, i think that was that Tati Masser guy again.
(03/29 22:28:24) Calum Traveler: the old guy who fought like a martial artist?
(03/29 22:28:36) Ami Renee Glessad: that sounds like him, yes.
(03/29 22:29:06) Calum Traveler: yeah, Carl and I chased that guy when he showed up here at the hood that one day.
(03/29 22:29:15) Calum Traveler: all suited up in a maintainer suit.
(03/29 22:29:22) Calum Traveler: managed to pry his helmet off, once.
(03/29 22:29:34) BatPrad: the masser-cre guy...
(03/29 22:29:48) Calum Traveler: threw me to the ground before long. fought pretty well for an old guy...
(03/29 22:29:57) Ami Renee Glessad sorts faintly
(03/29 22:30:08) Dni_seeker 5: Did Tati ever... interact with anyone outside the True Seeds?
(03/29 22:30:09) Ami Renee Glessad: masser-cre... good one.
(03/29 22:30:18) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't know for sure.
(03/29 22:30:25) Ami Renee Glessad: I wouldn't doubt it, though.
(03/29 22:30:33) Ami Renee Glessad: He had to get some of those supplies from somewhere.
(03/29 22:30:45) Dni_seeker 5: "Supplies"?
(03/29 22:31:03) Ami Renee Glessad: weird things.
(03/29 22:31:21) Ami Renee Glessad: Pepper Spray liquid bottles,
(03/29 22:32:05) Ami Renee Glessad: all the 'at home' equipment we used to 'keep an eye' on Logan's health after...
(03/29 22:32:14) Ami Renee Glessad frowns
(03/29 22:32:32) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm pretty sure he was the one getting us food supplies from the surface, too.
(03/29 22:32:41) Ami Renee Glessad: but that could've been Casey
(03/29 22:33:07) Ami Renee Glessad: Tati certainly was indulging Casey in the kleptomania
(03/29 22:33:33) Ami Renee Glessad: i dunno. weird stuff.
(03/29 22:33:50) Calum Traveler: certainly sounds like it.
(03/29 22:34:04) Calum Traveler: I know its getting late, i think we should wrap this up.
(03/29 22:34:22) Calum Traveler: Ami, would it be imposing if I invited you to speak privately about the Overflow station?
(03/29 22:34:28) Ami Renee Glessad: um, what about?
(03/29 22:35:07) Calum Traveler: you might be one of the only people with enough know-how about that station besides me and my work crew who can put together things again after the damage done there.
(03/29 22:35:14) Calum Traveler: i'd like to offer you a job.
(03/29 22:35:22) Ami Renee Glessad stares for a long moment
(03/29 22:35:28) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm sorry?
(03/29 22:35:38) Ami Renee Glessad: did. did I misshear you?
(03/29 22:36:03) Calum Traveler: I'd like to offer you a job helping restore the Overflow Station. Can we talk about that?
(03/29 22:36:29) Ami Renee Glessad: ...I. I guess?
(03/29 22:36:39) BatPrad: I think he really meant it. Grey hat hackers can become companies security specialists too if they want...
(03/29 22:36:49) Calum Traveler: cool, cool, doesnt have to be now, if you're tired.
(03/29 22:37:05) Calum Traveler: ill send you an invite to one of my ages, we can talk there whenever
(03/29 22:37:15) Dni_seeker 5: Didn't I hear about a con man who went to work for the FBI...
(03/29 22:37:34) Ami Renee Glessad: got it. thank you.
(03/29 22:37:42) Ami Renee Glessad: I'll. I'll reach out to you.
(03/29 22:37:46) Ami Renee Glessad: I need to think about it.
(03/29 22:37:54) Calum Traveler: sure thing
(03/29 22:37:57) Thumbs up from Calum Traveler
(03/29 22:38:07) Calum Traveler: jules, shall we wrap it up?
(03/29 22:38:20) Jules Lavisham: Yes, I reckon so!
(03/29 22:38:21) BatPrad getting hungry for a wrap...
(03/29 22:38:25) Ami Renee Glessad looks a bit exhausted, and relieved...
(03/29 22:38:25) Buddy: Excellent! Thank you all.
(03/29 22:38:42) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you, I'm. going to go get something to eat, too. I didn't realize I was getting hungry.
(03/29 22:38:47) Jules Lavisham: Thank you for coming out today, Ami. We do appreciate the chance for the air to be cleared a little.
(03/29 22:38:57) Ami Renee Glessad: It's no problem.
(03/29 22:39:05) Ami Renee Glessad: I'd have read over my notes, but, um. I lost my old journal
(03/29 22:39:12) Jules Lavisham: And, for what it's worth, the restoration can always use an extra pair of hands who know what they're doing with them.
(03/29 22:39:19) Dni_seeker 5: Hmm...
(03/29 22:39:21) BatPrad: learning about the dangers in the cavern is important for survival..
(03/29 22:39:25) Ami Renee Glessad nods
(03/29 22:39:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I'll consider it.
(03/29 22:39:33) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you both.
(03/29 22:39:33) BatPrad: so thanks for all the information...
(03/29 22:39:49) Ami Renee Glessad smiles, and then moves for her Relto Book, clearly eager to get out of here...
(03/29 22:39:55) Jules Lavisham: Right, that about wraps it up for this month's Town Hall!
(03/29 22:40:01) Jules Lavisham: Thank you for coming out, all.
(03/29 22:40:12) Jules Lavisham: Looking forward to seeing you next month in the City!
(03/29 22:40:29) Calum Traveler: im going to head out, too.
(03/29 22:40:32) Calum Traveler: take care, all
(03/29 22:40:33) BatPrad salutes
(03/29 22:40:34) Calum Traveler waves goodbye
(03/29 22:40:37) Jules Lavisham: Righty ho, Cal.
(03/29 22:40:44) Calum Traveler: jules, ill leave the chatlog to you?
(03/29 22:40:46) Jules Lavisham: I'll do the usual forum postings in a bit.
(03/29 22:40:49) Calum Traveler: ive got some thoughts to mull over.
(03/29 22:40:55) Thumbs up from Calum Traveler
(03/29 22:41:00) Jules Lavisham: No doubt.
(03/29 22:41:31) Jules Lavisham exhales
(03/29 21:54:25) Buddy: Shorah Mike
(03/29 21:54:26) Calum Traveler: shorah, mike
(03/29 21:54:39) Jules Lavisham: Shorah, Mike! We're up in the auditorium.
(03/29 21:54:48) Calum Traveler: what do you think, jules? any objection to shifting to QNA mode?
(03/29 21:55:02) Jules Lavisham: Not at all, that's everything I had planned.
(03/29 21:55:23) Ami Renee Glessad: um.
(03/29 21:55:23) Dni_seeker 5 wants to ask a question...
(03/29 21:55:25) Ami Renee Glessad: Hi.
(03/29 21:55:27) Jules Lavisham: Stage is yours, Ami.
(03/29 21:55:49) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm Ami Renee Glessad. I guess a few of you... um, know me pretty well by reputation at this point.
(03/29 21:56:35) Ami Renee Glessad: I was someone who fell in with a bad crowd and they, well, they were causing quite some trouble as you know.
(03/29 21:56:43) Ami Renee Glessad: The "True Seeds"
(03/29 21:57:08) Dni_seeker 5: i remember
(03/29 21:57:12) Ami Renee Glessad: And, I... Um. I confronted them back in December. I recognize some of you from then.
(03/29 21:57:15) BatPrad: yeah - remember that escalation in naybree...
(03/29 21:57:29) Ami Renee Glessad: Thank you for coming to that, by the way. I know it was... A Lot.
(03/29 21:57:39) Ami Renee Glessad: But it did help steady my resolve a bit.
(03/29 21:57:51) Ami Renee Glessad: So. Um. Questions?
(03/29 21:57:58) Dni_seeker 5: yes
(03/29 21:58:02) Mike_42 waves hello
(03/29 21:58:16) Dni_seeker 5: have you ever heard of Benavud?
(03/29 21:58:24) Ami Renee Glessad: Ben... yes and no.
(03/29 21:58:32) Dni_seeker 5: Huh?
(03/29 21:58:36) Ami Renee Glessad: At the time, I didn't know about him.
(03/29 21:59:02) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan and I were doing our own things at the time. We'd come down to D'ni to get away from our lives on the surface.
(03/29 21:59:15) Ami Renee Glessad: It's how we ended up meeting up with Harlan and his New Seed, in the end.
(03/29 21:59:43) Ami Renee Glessad: And, around the time that Logan was becoming "Rafe" due to that stupid D'ni cold he picked up...
(03/29 21:59:59) Ami Renee Glessad: Honestly, we kinda were... not really talking much. I think we were just drifting our own ways.
(03/29 22:00:15) Ami Renee Glessad: So, I didn't really learn about any of that until recently, comparatively speaking.
(03/29 22:00:25) Dni_seeker 5: so you didn't know that there was a full-blooded D'ni here.
(03/29 22:00:36) Ami Renee Glessad: I didn't, no.
(03/29 22:00:50) Ami Renee Glessad: And from what little Logan told me before he got pulled out of the hospital, I don't think he knew either.
(03/29 22:01:05) Ami Renee Glessad: Mind you, I didn't know it was *Ben* he was talking about
(03/29 22:01:14) Ami Renee Glessad: just 'a friend who forgot about me'
(03/29 22:01:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I should've put the pieces together, but... hindsight.
(03/29 22:01:59) Dni_seeker 5: "Forgot about him"... that seems like a very extreme punishment for "forgetting".
(03/29 22:02:02) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm not too certain of the whole timing of when Ben and Logan met. Or when any of that happened. Logan wasn't forthcoming other than that they fought, and that he said and did things that he regreted after.
(03/29 22:02:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I think he said that meaning that Ben's amnesia had made him forget? but....
(03/29 22:02:31) Ami Renee Glessad shrugs
(03/29 22:02:57) Ami Renee Glessad: the whole Ben thing just made me want to talk to Logan again after I heard about it, but... well. His siblings put a stop to that before I could.
(03/29 22:03:28) Mike_42: Well I hope none of u hold it against me, but I will forget most of u and the game..... but I will continue to try to keep things noted and in my head.... Off to other lands, take care
(03/29 22:03:30) BatPrad: well it was more a 'trauma amnesia' than a physical brain damage one we learned the other day...
(03/29 22:03:34) Dni_seeker 5: "Rafael Templeton" trapped Logan in his/their Relto (I'm still not sure how they shared a Relto) and he tortured a Bahro in front of him.
(03/29 22:03:47) Dni_seeker 5: then he destroyed all the Linking Books out of Relto.
(03/29 22:03:59) Ami Renee Glessad looks confused for a moment
(03/29 22:04:05) Ami Renee Glessad: How could Logan trap himself?
(03/29 22:04:14) Dni_seeker 5: no wait not logan Ben
(03/29 22:04:16) Ami Renee Glessad: Rafael was one of Logan's aliases.
(03/29 22:04:25) Dni_seeker 5: Ben was the one who got trapped
(03/29 22:04:36) Dni_seeker 5: wait "one of" as in there's more than one?
(03/29 22:04:45) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan Marcus is *technically* not his full name.
(03/29 22:05:00) Ami Renee Glessad: It's his first and middle name, and he had it legally changed to be his first and last,
(03/29 22:05:17) Dni_seeker 5: what was his actual surname?
(03/29 22:05:22) Ami Renee Glessad: He, ah. Really didn't want to be known as Logan Masters.
(03/29 22:05:44) Ami Renee Glessad: Like I said earlier, before the Town Hall, Logan's the angel of his family.
(03/29 22:05:48) Dni_seeker 5: "Logan Masters"? huh...
(03/29 22:06:00) Calum Traveler: angel huh?
(03/29 22:06:14) Jules Lavisham: The implications of that are... disturbing.
(03/29 22:06:33) Ami Renee Glessad: His brother and sister pulled him out of a hospital against medical advice
(03/29 22:06:39) Dni_seeker 5: anyway, did you hear what I said? He tortured a Bahro and made Ben watch. He trapped Ben in Relto. How is that an "angel"?
(03/29 22:07:01) BatPrad: people can change charater strongy during life depending on circumstances... for me not totally impossible to have a 'fallen angel' there...
(03/29 22:07:02) Ami Renee Glessad: comparatively speaking, Logan is a down right saint when you look at his family.
(03/29 22:07:07) BatPrad: *character*
(03/29 22:07:12) Ami Renee Glessad: im not saying he didn't do bad things
(03/29 22:07:13) Ami Renee Glessad: but...
(03/29 22:07:18) Ami Renee Glessad: those pale in comparison.
(03/29 22:07:24) Ami Renee Glessad shudders
(03/29 22:07:40) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan and I were friends for a long time.
(03/29 22:07:46) Dni_seeker 5: Like what? Are the others total psychopaths?
(03/29 22:07:59) Ereshkigal: Why are they like that?
(03/29 22:08:07) Ami Renee Glessad: I have this one memory of Roman- Logan's brother.
(03/29 22:08:29) Ami Renee Glessad: It was.... oh around one of those financial crisies that seem to always happen around rich folks.
(03/29 22:08:56) Ami Renee Glessad: And he... he *laughed* at a news report of people losing their jobs.
(03/29 22:09:04) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't want to repeat the things he said.
(03/29 22:09:06) Ami Renee Glessad: It was horrible.
(03/29 22:09:51) Ami Renee Glessad: The standard 'rich people disconnect' sort of thing... It's...
(03/29 22:10:22) Ami Renee Glessad: Let me put it this way. I've spent the last several weeks since Logan got taken out of the hospital checking every single Estate that I know the Masters family owns.
(03/29 22:10:34) Ami Renee Glessad: He wasn't at *any* of them. And neither were his siblings.
(03/29 22:10:52) Ami Renee Glessad: The only people who were there were the bi-weekly cleaning crews, and they'd not seen anyone in months.
(03/29 22:11:08) Dni_seeker 5: alright, this sounds like a kidnapping
(03/29 22:11:12) Ami Renee Glessad: I ran out of places that I knew they owned. Which leaves places I don't know they own, which could be anything.
(03/29 22:11:26) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm worried, but I know Logan.
(03/29 22:11:37) Ami Renee Glessad: the minute he can get away, he will come back, and I'll be waiting here for him.
(03/29 22:11:44) BatPrad: ah - it's called 'post box company' or such (if thats the cortrect term) a company which mainly just exists in some papers...
(03/29 22:11:55) Ami Renee Glessad: unfortunately, there's a lot.
(03/29 22:12:36) Calum Traveler: who's the other sibling?
(03/29 22:12:48) Ami Renee Glessad: Violet Masters.
(03/29 22:13:01) Calum Traveler thinks for a moment...
(03/29 22:13:27) Ereshkigal: I need to link out again. Ami, all the best!! I hope you can find peace in this confusion, and I wish all the best for Logan. I will eep following what goes on here, and I'll keep an eye out for him.
(03/29 22:13:35) Calum Traveler: later, eresh.
(03/29 22:13:39) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you
(03/29 22:13:42) Jules Lavisham: Take care, Eresh.
(03/29 22:13:49) Dni_seeker 5: Calum, what is it? Do you KNOW this "Violet"?
(03/29 22:13:53) Calum Traveler: I think I remember hearing that name before,
(03/29 22:14:06) Ereshkigal waves goodbye
(03/29 22:14:25) Calum Traveler: one of those rich socialite types?
(03/29 22:14:33) BatPrad: so the Logan, Roman and Violet shamrock...
(03/29 22:14:33) Ami Renee Glessad nods her head
(03/29 22:15:23) Calum Traveler: Yeah, I came across that name in passing when I was looking into something a while back.
(03/29 22:15:47) Dni_seeker 5: looking into what?
(03/29 22:15:55) Calum Traveler: something surface related,
(03/29 22:16:20) Calum Traveler: was looking into people who were backing some stupid legislative bills. politics, id rather not get into it.
(03/29 22:16:32) Calum Traveler: made sense for a rich person to do, though. they always seem the type.
(03/29 22:16:40) Jules Lavisham grimaces
(03/29 22:16:44) BatPrad: reminds me on my own family... I differ in character from my brother and sister... not that they're bad siblings... they just share a dominant character trait I don't have...
(03/29 22:17:48) Ami Renee Glessad: Um. Does anyone want to ask anything else about my time in the Seeds, or is that... enough for now?
(03/29 22:18:39) Buddy: I'm just numb trying to absorb it all.
(03/29 22:18:41) Calum Traveler: if nobody has anything, ive got a few questions.
(03/29 22:18:41) Dni_seeker 5: I think that's it
(03/29 22:18:48) Dni_seeker 5: Okay
(03/29 22:18:53) Ami Renee Glessad: alright.
(03/29 22:18:58) BatPrad: are there more cult dropout people apart from you and ben and a handful...?
(03/29 22:19:24) Ami Renee Glessad: um... from Logan's splinter?
(03/29 22:19:33) BatPrad: yes
(03/29 22:19:58) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't think anyone other than Sansa, Marcus, Casey, Tati, and Tally were ever working with us.
(03/29 22:20:11) BatPrad: ah okay...
(03/29 22:20:27) Ami Renee Glessad: Mind you, Tati and Tally seemed to have their own thing going on, so I couldn't say for sure, but I never interacted with anyone else under the true seeds banner.
(03/29 22:20:56) Calum Traveler: What was that whole overflow station thing about?
(03/29 22:21:06) Ami Renee Glessad grimaces...
(03/29 22:21:20) Buddy: As this is all news to me, what was the goal of The Seeds?
(03/29 22:21:34) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan's goal? kick everyone out of the cavern to let it lie.
(03/29 22:21:45) Ami Renee Glessad: Nobody was really 'fit' to be in D'ni by his mind's eye.
(03/29 22:21:55) Dni_seeker 5: even Ben?
(03/29 22:22:01) Ami Renee Glessad: nobody, not even pure D'ni
(03/29 22:22:15) Ami Renee Glessad: Logan was adamant that this place shouldn't be inhabited. Like a grave site.
(03/29 22:22:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I never thought he'd actually start trying to do anything about it.
(03/29 22:22:34) Ami Renee Glessad crosses her arms...
(03/29 22:22:36) BatPrad: a radical goal of a fanatic cult circle...
(03/29 22:22:43) Ami Renee Glessad: the others didn't know any of that,
(03/29 22:22:45) Dni_seeker 5: Sounds like crazy Exile Atrus
(03/29 22:23:03) Ami Renee Glessad: Tati might've had an idea, but he was twisting Logan's mind around so much...
(03/29 22:23:07) Ami Renee Glessad shakes her head
(03/29 22:23:16) Jules Lavisham: It did strike me as something that, at its concept, was unworkable from the start
(03/29 22:23:42) Dni_seeker 5: So, as Calum said, what was the Overflow Station thing all about?
(03/29 22:23:44) Ami Renee Glessad: It was because of his whispered words and Logan being sick from that D'ni cold or flu or whatever it was, that everything got so twisted up.
(03/29 22:23:49) Buddy: Extremists (of any type) will be the downfall of us all.
(03/29 22:24:04) Ami Renee Glessad: The Overflow Station... all of that was...
(03/29 22:24:37) Ami Renee Glessad: I think Tati's goal there- and it WAS Tati's plan- was to try to demoralize people
(03/29 22:24:58) Ami Renee Glessad: there wasn't any reason to it. he just... wanted to break stuff to keep things from getting better.
(03/29 22:25:16) Ami Renee Glessad: all of that nonsense. all of that escalation, that was him pressuring things and trying to get the others riled up and...
(03/29 22:25:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I've had a long time to think about it,
(03/29 22:25:39) Ami Renee Glessad: but back then all I could think was "this isn't right?"
(03/29 22:25:53) Ami Renee Glessad: What's the point of taking over the cavern if we've destroyed equipment necessary to keep it alive?
(03/29 22:26:10) Ami Renee Glessad: so... I went in and I tried to fix what they broke.
(03/29 22:26:31) Calum Traveler: and then I caught you and startled you enough you shoved me over as you ran.
(03/29 22:26:43) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm really, really, *really* sorry about that.
(03/29 22:26:51) Dni_seeker 5: But that wasn't you in the Maintainer Suit, right?
(03/29 22:26:56) Ami Renee Glessad: I wasn't in a good headspace at all back then.
(03/29 22:27:00) Ami Renee Glessad: Maintainer Suit?
(03/29 22:27:05) Ami Renee Glessad: I've never had a maintainer suit.
(03/29 22:27:22) BatPrad: oh
(03/29 22:27:55) Dni_seeker 5: I heard that some jerk in a Maintainer Suit tried to break into the Overflow Station at some point
(03/29 22:28:00) Ami Renee Glessad looks at Calum
(03/29 22:28:16) Calum Traveler: yeah, i think that was that Tati Masser guy again.
(03/29 22:28:24) Calum Traveler: the old guy who fought like a martial artist?
(03/29 22:28:36) Ami Renee Glessad: that sounds like him, yes.
(03/29 22:29:06) Calum Traveler: yeah, Carl and I chased that guy when he showed up here at the hood that one day.
(03/29 22:29:15) Calum Traveler: all suited up in a maintainer suit.
(03/29 22:29:22) Calum Traveler: managed to pry his helmet off, once.
(03/29 22:29:34) BatPrad: the masser-cre guy...
(03/29 22:29:48) Calum Traveler: threw me to the ground before long. fought pretty well for an old guy...
(03/29 22:29:57) Ami Renee Glessad sorts faintly
(03/29 22:30:08) Dni_seeker 5: Did Tati ever... interact with anyone outside the True Seeds?
(03/29 22:30:09) Ami Renee Glessad: masser-cre... good one.
(03/29 22:30:18) Ami Renee Glessad: I don't know for sure.
(03/29 22:30:25) Ami Renee Glessad: I wouldn't doubt it, though.
(03/29 22:30:33) Ami Renee Glessad: He had to get some of those supplies from somewhere.
(03/29 22:30:45) Dni_seeker 5: "Supplies"?
(03/29 22:31:03) Ami Renee Glessad: weird things.
(03/29 22:31:21) Ami Renee Glessad: Pepper Spray liquid bottles,
(03/29 22:32:05) Ami Renee Glessad: all the 'at home' equipment we used to 'keep an eye' on Logan's health after...
(03/29 22:32:14) Ami Renee Glessad frowns
(03/29 22:32:32) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm pretty sure he was the one getting us food supplies from the surface, too.
(03/29 22:32:41) Ami Renee Glessad: but that could've been Casey
(03/29 22:33:07) Ami Renee Glessad: Tati certainly was indulging Casey in the kleptomania
(03/29 22:33:33) Ami Renee Glessad: i dunno. weird stuff.
(03/29 22:33:50) Calum Traveler: certainly sounds like it.
(03/29 22:34:04) Calum Traveler: I know its getting late, i think we should wrap this up.
(03/29 22:34:22) Calum Traveler: Ami, would it be imposing if I invited you to speak privately about the Overflow station?
(03/29 22:34:28) Ami Renee Glessad: um, what about?
(03/29 22:35:07) Calum Traveler: you might be one of the only people with enough know-how about that station besides me and my work crew who can put together things again after the damage done there.
(03/29 22:35:14) Calum Traveler: i'd like to offer you a job.
(03/29 22:35:22) Ami Renee Glessad stares for a long moment
(03/29 22:35:28) Ami Renee Glessad: I'm sorry?
(03/29 22:35:38) Ami Renee Glessad: did. did I misshear you?
(03/29 22:36:03) Calum Traveler: I'd like to offer you a job helping restore the Overflow Station. Can we talk about that?
(03/29 22:36:29) Ami Renee Glessad: ...I. I guess?
(03/29 22:36:39) BatPrad: I think he really meant it. Grey hat hackers can become companies security specialists too if they want...
(03/29 22:36:49) Calum Traveler: cool, cool, doesnt have to be now, if you're tired.
(03/29 22:37:05) Calum Traveler: ill send you an invite to one of my ages, we can talk there whenever
(03/29 22:37:15) Dni_seeker 5: Didn't I hear about a con man who went to work for the FBI...
(03/29 22:37:34) Ami Renee Glessad: got it. thank you.
(03/29 22:37:42) Ami Renee Glessad: I'll. I'll reach out to you.
(03/29 22:37:46) Ami Renee Glessad: I need to think about it.
(03/29 22:37:54) Calum Traveler: sure thing
(03/29 22:37:57) Thumbs up from Calum Traveler
(03/29 22:38:07) Calum Traveler: jules, shall we wrap it up?
(03/29 22:38:20) Jules Lavisham: Yes, I reckon so!
(03/29 22:38:21) BatPrad getting hungry for a wrap...
(03/29 22:38:25) Ami Renee Glessad looks a bit exhausted, and relieved...
(03/29 22:38:25) Buddy: Excellent! Thank you all.
(03/29 22:38:42) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you, I'm. going to go get something to eat, too. I didn't realize I was getting hungry.
(03/29 22:38:47) Jules Lavisham: Thank you for coming out today, Ami. We do appreciate the chance for the air to be cleared a little.
(03/29 22:38:57) Ami Renee Glessad: It's no problem.
(03/29 22:39:05) Ami Renee Glessad: I'd have read over my notes, but, um. I lost my old journal
(03/29 22:39:12) Jules Lavisham: And, for what it's worth, the restoration can always use an extra pair of hands who know what they're doing with them.
(03/29 22:39:19) Dni_seeker 5: Hmm...
(03/29 22:39:21) BatPrad: learning about the dangers in the cavern is important for survival..
(03/29 22:39:25) Ami Renee Glessad nods
(03/29 22:39:29) Ami Renee Glessad: I'll consider it.
(03/29 22:39:33) Ami Renee Glessad: thank you both.
(03/29 22:39:33) BatPrad: so thanks for all the information...
(03/29 22:39:49) Ami Renee Glessad smiles, and then moves for her Relto Book, clearly eager to get out of here...
(03/29 22:39:55) Jules Lavisham: Right, that about wraps it up for this month's Town Hall!
(03/29 22:40:01) Jules Lavisham: Thank you for coming out, all.
(03/29 22:40:12) Jules Lavisham: Looking forward to seeing you next month in the City!
(03/29 22:40:29) Calum Traveler: im going to head out, too.
(03/29 22:40:32) Calum Traveler: take care, all
(03/29 22:40:33) BatPrad salutes
(03/29 22:40:34) Calum Traveler waves goodbye
(03/29 22:40:37) Jules Lavisham: Righty ho, Cal.
(03/29 22:40:44) Calum Traveler: jules, ill leave the chatlog to you?
(03/29 22:40:46) Jules Lavisham: I'll do the usual forum postings in a bit.
(03/29 22:40:49) Calum Traveler: ive got some thoughts to mull over.
(03/29 22:40:55) Thumbs up from Calum Traveler
(03/29 22:41:00) Jules Lavisham: No doubt.
(03/29 22:41:31) Jules Lavisham exhales
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