
(03/26 16:11:34) Bozodo: Shorah Jules
(03/26 16:11:37) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Mina, all
(03/26 16:11:39) Jules Lavisham waves hello
(03/26 16:11:49) Bozodo: one seat is free here
(03/26 16:11:57) Jules Lavisham: Oh lovely, many thanks!
(03/26 16:12:13) Jules Lavisham: Thought I'd pop down, tune into Fil
(03/26 16:12:14) RandomKoolZip: shorah Bozodo, Jules
(03/26 16:15:01) From Scharminius in Scharminius' Nexus: shorah Omi

(03/26 16:22:02) thoekenem: shorah Zip
(03/26 16:22:19) Bozodo: Shorah thoekenem

(03/26 16:22:30) RandomKoolZip waves hello
(03/26 16:22:44) thoekenem waves hello
(03/26 16:23:11) Eternal Seeker: Shorah Thoeke and Jules
(03/26 16:23:30) Minasunda: shorah Thoe

(03/26 16:23:39) thoekenem: shorah Seeker and Mina

(03/26 16:23:44) thoekenem does a dance
(03/26 16:34:04) From Calum Traveler in Calum Traveler's Relto: morning all
(03/26 16:34:21) To Neighbors: Morning Cal!
(03/26 16:34:54) To Neighbors: In the Messenger's Pub, tuned in to Fil on
(03/26 16:35:00) From Calum Traveler in The Watcher's Pub: omw
(03/26 16:35:03) To Neighbors: streetjelly
(03/26 16:35:03) From Calum Traveler (I'm on the surface, be back in a minute):
(03/26 16:35:32) Jules Lavisham retrieves a bottle of white wine from his person
(03/26 16:35:57) Calum Traveler: evenin'

(03/26 16:36:01) Calum Traveler: er
(03/26 16:36:02) Calum Traveler: mornin'
(03/26 16:36:10) Minasunda: shorah Cal

(03/26 16:36:17) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Cal!
(03/26 16:36:20) Calum Traveler: i managed to get the audio on time
(03/26 16:36:24) Calum Traveler: just was delayed on the surface

(03/26 16:36:26) thoekenem does a dance
(03/26 16:36:30) Eternal Seeker: ShorahCalum
(03/26 16:36:34) Calum Traveler: grandma's back from traveling so we were catching up.
(03/26 16:38:00) RandomKoolZip: shorah Calum
(03/26 16:38:22) Calum Traveler: shorah

(03/26 16:40:33) Bozodo: Will the KI ever hold more than 15 images ?
(03/26 16:41:01) Jules Lavisham: I'm not an expert, but I believe it's a Lattice issue rather than down to the hardware
(03/26 16:41:38) Bozodo: What does Lattice mean ?
(03/26 16:42:03) Jules Lavisham: The network that the Cavern uses
(03/26 16:42:08) Calum Traveler: Lattice is the background server the KI network uses
(03/26 16:42:10) Bozodo: thank you
(03/26 16:42:15) Calum Traveler: as for will the KI hold more, no
(03/26 16:42:37) Calum Traveler: the server has issues with loading more than 15 pics/journal entries locally on bootup
(03/26 16:43:05) Calum Traveler: the rest of the incoming folder is a separate folder system and not necessarily subject to the same rules
(03/26 16:43:47) Calum Traveler: the reason for the local limit is due to similar reasons that we're seeing SetActiveFailed bootups with KI#s tied to over crowded hoods in some way
(03/26 16:44:04) Calum Traveler: if that local limit were larger, we'd likely be seeing more frequent SAFs
(03/26 16:44:26) Calum Traveler: trust me, its for everyones good that there's a limit.
(03/26 16:45:01) thoekenem: guildofmessengers.org is back working again...
(03/26 16:45:16) thoekenem: no 404 errors

(03/26 16:46:07) Calum Traveler: that's good,
(03/26 16:46:28) Jules Lavisham: Excellent!
(03/26 16:46:41) Bozodo: ggod to hear that, i wanted to take a look at the monthly schedule yesterday and only get 404 error
(03/26 16:46:46) Bozodo: good
(03/26 16:46:50) thoekenem: the calendar page loaded
(03/26 16:50:41) Calum Traveler: shorah, RB
(03/26 16:50:45) Bozodo: Shorah Root Beer
(03/26 16:51:32) thoekenem starts to laugh
(03/26 16:51:33) Root Beer: well dang
(03/26 16:51:56) Calum Traveler: ^^;
(03/26 16:52:00) Minasunda: shorah Root Beer

(03/26 16:52:30) RandomKoolZip: I've got to run. See you all later...
(03/26 16:52:34) Root Beer: Hi, Calum and Minasunda
(03/26 16:52:38) thoekenem: bye Zip
(03/26 16:52:38) Eternal Seeker: Shorah Root Beer
(03/26 16:52:43) Bozodo: bye Random
(03/26 16:52:44) thoekenem salutes
(03/26 16:52:45) RandomKoolZip: bye!
(03/26 16:52:53) Minasunda: see you RandomKoolZip

(03/26 16:53:09) Eternal Seeker: Bye Random
(03/26 16:53:17) Calum Traveler: later random
(03/26 16:54:38) Jules Lavisham: Shorah Root Beer
(03/26 16:55:05) Calum Traveler claps his hands
(03/26 16:55:10) Calum Traveler: nicely done

(03/26 17:00:17) Jules Lavisham: Ah, that was some good tuneage
(03/26 17:00:26) Calum Traveler yawns
(03/26 17:00:29) Calum Traveler: it was good
(03/26 17:00:43) Jules Lavisham: I enjoyed the Dire Straits particularly
(03/26 17:00:45) Calum Traveler: but also has me drfting off a bit lol
(03/26 17:00:50) Calum Traveler: i was up late last night
(03/26 17:00:51) Calum Traveler: >>;
(03/26 17:01:01) Jules Lavisham: Ooof
(03/26 17:01:07) Calum Traveler: good music tends to sooth one to sleepytimes
(03/26 17:01:08) Jules Lavisham: Burning the midnight oil again?
(03/26 17:01:18) Calum Traveler: waited for dad to bring grandma in from airport
(03/26 17:01:30) Calum Traveler: her flight didnt get in until, like, 12:30
(03/26 17:02:10) Jules Lavisham: Ouch
(03/26 17:02:13) Calum Traveler: mmh
(03/26 17:03:00) Calum Traveler yawns
(03/26 17:03:29) Calum Traveler: i have no idea what my parents plan on doing, visit wise,
(03/26 17:03:35) Calum Traveler: i may just take today to myself tbh.
(03/26 17:03:48) Calum Traveler: i could use a break heh.
(03/26 17:03:50) Jules Lavisham: Highly recommended. That's what I'm doing
(03/26 17:04:11) Calum Traveler: heh
(03/26 17:04:15) Jules Lavisham: Done the Big Shop, some assorted housework.
(03/26 17:04:27) Jules Lavisham: Pushing anything else productive until tomorrow
(03/26 17:04:33) Calum Traveler: mood.
(03/26 17:04:49) Jules Lavisham: Already got the Pinot Noir open
(03/26 17:04:54) Calum Traveler: jules!
(03/26 17:04:57) Jules Lavisham: Last of the Xmas wine
(03/26 17:04:57) Calum Traveler: it's only 11!
(03/26 17:05:06) Calum Traveler:

(03/26 17:05:09) Jules Lavisham: Maybe to you, I'm on GMT
(03/26 17:05:15) Calum Traveler: hahah, fair
(03/26 17:05:16) Jules Lavisham smirks
(03/26 17:05:19) Calum Traveler: i cant argue time zones
(03/26 17:05:34) Jules Lavisham: Which makes five o'clock five minutes ago
(03/26 17:05:39) Calum Traveler: ah
(03/26 17:05:40) Calum Traveler: yes,
(03/26 17:05:45) Calum Traveler: tis always 5oclock somewhere
(03/26 17:05:52) Jules Lavisham: That it be
(03/26 17:06:25) Jules Lavisham: Anyway, I think we all can collectively use a bit of a break
(03/26 17:06:30) Calum Traveler: oh yes,
(03/26 17:06:34) Calum Traveler sips at some chocolate milk
(03/26 17:06:37) Jules Lavisham: Last month or two has felt a wee bit frought with business
(03/26 17:06:42) Calum Traveler: this last month has been hectic
(03/26 17:06:45) Jules Lavisham: Moreso than previously
(03/26 17:07:11) Calum Traveler: yeah. very.
(03/26 17:07:18) Calum Traveler: just all the wall stuff alone
(03/26 17:07:27) Jules Lavisham: At one point someone will say "we'll get this out of the way and things will calm down a bit"
(03/26 17:07:30) Calum Traveler: boy am i glad we've finally got that on lockdown for this quarter.
(03/26 17:07:35) Jules Lavisham: And then things will actually *calm down a bit*
(03/26 17:07:43) Calum Traveler: im hoping for an actual calm down
(03/26 17:07:56) Calum Traveler: alas, i think ive got a cousin coming in sometime next month
(03/26 17:08:11) Calum Traveler: and ive got a meeting im hoping to schedule between the restoration crew and the community,
(03/26 17:08:21) Calum Traveler: need to get a time table on that...
(03/26 17:08:25) Calum Traveler sighs
(03/26 17:08:34) Calum Traveler: i just want a break at this point lol
(03/26 17:08:57) Jules Lavisham: Agreed.
(03/26 17:09:17) Jules Lavisham: If it keeps up like this much longer there's going to be some of us developing actual sympathies for the DRC
(03/26 17:09:32) Calum Traveler: you say that as if i havent been sympathizing with them for over a year now
(03/26 17:09:53) Calum Traveler: you dont quite realize the pressures people are under until you're doing their job.
(03/26 17:09:59) Jules Lavisham: Haha. No, I know what you mean.
(03/26 17:10:08) Calum Traveler: i think ive ended up assuming Marie's job as the 'people person'
(03/26 17:10:32) Calum Traveler scratches at back of head,
(03/26 17:10:34) Jules Lavisham: Seeing firsthand what folks like you and the other restorers are doing has given me something of an appreciation for what they went through
(03/26 17:10:45) Calum Traveler: and that's in addition to Engberg's whole safety management stuff...
(03/26 17:10:53) Calum Traveler: plus a bit of Laxman's tech...
(03/26 17:10:54) Calum Traveler: bleh
(03/26 17:11:11) Calum Traveler: im just glad we have that doctor fellow who's come down now.
(03/26 17:11:20) Calum Traveler: that's one thing the DRC never had publicly,
(03/26 17:11:24) Calum Traveler: an in house doctor lol
(03/26 17:11:37) Jules Lavisham: Ah yes, Tenny! Met him last weekend when I popped down after I got back from Cambridge
(03/26 17:11:55) Calum Traveler:

(03/26 17:11:57) Jules Lavisham: I pointed him in your direction not knowing that Kelsei had already sorted you out up top
(03/26 17:12:08) Calum Traveler: yeah, some folks kept pestering me to see him even despite that
(03/26 17:12:16) Calum Traveler: i popped in for a visit to ease some minds.
(03/26 17:12:25) Jules Lavisham: Got the all clear?
(03/26 17:12:29) Calum Traveler: good guy, certainly could use more folks like that.
(03/26 17:12:38) Calum Traveler: well, surface docs say yes,
(03/26 17:12:49) Calum Traveler: Kelsei's still worried about me sleep talking though,
(03/26 17:13:08) Calum Traveler: apparently i was going on about wild seeds this time, lol.
(03/26 17:13:26) Calum Traveler sighs tiredly
(03/26 17:13:26) Jules Lavisham: Wild seeds?
(03/26 17:13:31) Jules Lavisham: Hrm.
(03/26 17:13:32) Bozodo (I'm on the surface, be back in a minute):
(03/26 17:13:38) Calum Traveler: something weird like that,
(03/26 17:13:49) Calum Traveler: gardeners not knowing where their seeds are sewing, or such
(03/26 17:13:59) Calum Traveler: idk, it all sounded like jibberish when kelsei read it back to me
(03/26 17:14:16) Jules Lavisham: Does sound a bit abstract
(03/26 17:14:17) vagabond (I'm on the surface, be back in a minute):
(03/26 17:14:31) Calum Traveler: aye. lol
(03/26 17:14:56) Calum Traveler: havent had any luck tracking down our intruder, yet,
(03/26 17:15:09) Calum Traveler: all the info she provided to folks on the work crew was, obviously, faked.
(03/26 17:15:12) Jules Lavisham: Yes, must say I was a little disturbed about all that
(03/26 17:15:23) Jules Lavisham: It raises some quite disturbing implications
(03/26 17:15:23) Calum Traveler: interestingly, she avoided a few people on the crew,
(03/26 17:15:29) Calum Traveler: i havent been able to talk to them.
(03/26 17:15:42) Calum Traveler: apparently self quarantining on the surface after some flu exposure
(03/26 17:16:11) Calum Traveler: im beginning to suspect something stranger is afoot there.
(03/26 17:16:21) Calum Traveler: none of THEIR contact info is working either.
(03/26 17:16:27) Calum Traveler: they're all legit hires, but...
(03/26 17:16:34) Calum Traveler is a bit puzzled...
(03/26 17:16:48) Calum Traveler: idk, i feel like im only looking at half the picture here.
(03/26 17:16:49) Jules Lavisham: Mmm. To go to all the trouble of faking credentials, avoiding any kind of oversight
(03/26 17:17:04) Calum Traveler: that girl DID seem genuinely concerned about her work being undone.
(03/26 17:17:27) Jules Lavisham: Has there been any recent issues with the machinery at the overflow station?
(03/26 17:17:32) Calum Traveler: ive had the place on lockdown
(03/26 17:17:34) Calum Traveler: so no
(03/26 17:17:36) Calum Traveler: no work either way.
(03/26 17:17:51) Calum Traveler: not until i get this current business sorted out.
(03/26 17:18:08) Jules Lavisham: That's probably for the best
(03/26 17:18:19) Calum Traveler: i feel like im missing something
(03/26 17:18:27) Calum Traveler: like there's a piece of the puzzle just... floating out of grasp
(03/26 17:18:57) Calum Traveler grimaces, massaging at bridge of nose
(03/26 17:19:11) Jules Lavisham: I feel like we may need an additional layer or two of due dilligence with any work volunteers we make use of
(03/26 17:19:18) Calum Traveler: oh, for sure,
(03/26 17:19:42) Calum Traveler: im running extra background checks just to be sure, but...
(03/26 17:19:46) Calum Traveler: idk, something feels off.
(03/26 17:19:51) Jules Lavisham: Sigh. Administration, beuracracy. I'd hoped we could avoid that down here.
(03/26 17:19:58) Jules Lavisham: But it's getting unavoidable
(03/26 17:20:02) Calum Traveler: just because someone has a legit identity on the surface doesnt mean it matches things down here.
(03/26 17:20:08) Jules Lavisham: Was only a matter of time I suppose.
(03/26 17:20:17) Calum Traveler: jules, ive been trying to tighten ship down here for months now
(03/26 17:20:24) Calum Traveler: a lot of folks dont see a need for it,
(03/26 17:20:29) Calum Traveler: 'we're not the drc!'
(03/26 17:20:39) Calum Traveler: i cant blame them but
(03/26 17:20:41) Calum Traveler: cmon,
(03/26 17:21:01) Jules Lavisham: No, you're absolutely right.
(03/26 17:21:06) greven: Hej
(03/26 17:21:11) Calum Traveler says hey
(03/26 17:21:20) Jules Lavisham: Hi there greven
(03/26 17:21:35) Jules Lavisham: Especially with the restoration getting bigger, tackling new projects
(03/26 17:21:38) Calum Traveler: yeah,
(03/26 17:21:44) Calum Traveler: ive got a ton of concerns
(03/26 17:21:51) Calum Traveler: but the main one i have is getting our stuff organized together,
(03/26 17:22:01) Calum Traveler: we're a bit *too* loosely organized
(03/26 17:22:09) Calum Traveler: that's fine and all for volunteer work, but
(03/26 17:22:12) Calum Traveler: it leaves gaps
(03/26 17:22:22) Jules Lavisham: And if the best case scenario comes and more interest starts getting drummed up
(03/26 17:22:33) Jules Lavisham: There's a responsibility to explorers to consider
(03/26 17:22:41) Calum Traveler: the amount of crowds we see with each new reveal...
(03/26 17:22:54) Calum Traveler: ive had concerning talks with some explorers
(03/26 17:22:59) Calum Traveler: people who actually think we're the DRC still,
(03/26 17:23:10) Jules Lavisham: No, I think it is something we consider and lay down some foundational infrastructure
(03/26 17:23:10) Calum Traveler: i've had to dissuade them of that, but...
(03/26 17:23:11) Calum Traveler: yknow.
(03/26 17:23:15) Jules Lavisham: Sooner rather than later
(03/26 17:23:18) Calum Traveler: yes,
(03/26 17:23:22) Calum Traveler: im trying to get things laid for that
(03/26 17:23:34) Calum Traveler: the meeting ive got planned after the wall goes live,
(03/26 17:23:51) Calum Traveler: that should go a long way towards smoothing over any bumps in community concerns
(03/26 17:23:57) Calum Traveler hopes, atleast.
(03/26 17:24:07) Jules Lavisham: Absolutely. What are you thinking, something along the lines of a meet and greet?
(03/26 17:24:16) Calum Traveler: a couple different ideas
(03/26 17:24:22) Calum Traveler: the first one is going to be plain tech talk,
(03/26 17:24:35) Calum Traveler: just, get folks up to date on the underlying systems and the work that goes into that.
(03/26 17:24:47) Calum Traveler: you know, the *boring* stuff.
(03/26 17:24:54) Jules Lavisham nods
(03/26 17:25:04) Calum Traveler: second one is more like the DRC town halls
(03/26 17:25:16) Calum Traveler: publicity stuff, give folks a chance to meet the big names at a fixed time
(03/26 17:25:27) Calum Traveler: so that way people know who's who come the, yknow, random encounters we tend to have some days
(03/26 17:25:55) Calum Traveler sips at milk...
(03/26 17:26:11) Jules Lavisham: Sounds like a plan
(03/26 17:26:14) Calum Traveler: yeah,
(03/26 17:26:24) Calum Traveler: im hoping with a mixed approach of both we can appease people on two fronts
(03/26 17:26:33) Calum Traveler: there are the folks who only really *accept* technical answers
(03/26 17:26:38) Calum Traveler: and dont care for the PR or social
(03/26 17:26:48) Calum Traveler: meanwhile there are folks who are the opposite
(03/26 17:26:52) Calum Traveler: and there are people who care for neither
(03/26 17:26:58) Calum Traveler: all kinds of folks down here
(03/26 17:27:02) Calum Traveler: gotta balance it all out.
(03/26 17:27:15) Calum Traveler: i'll be coordinating those with Minasunda once i have dates for things

(03/26 17:27:21) Calum Traveler smiles over at Mina and gives a small wave
(03/26 17:27:22) Jules Lavisham: Well, can't please all of the people all of the time. But we can make an effort to cast a suitably wide net
(03/26 17:27:34) Calum Traveler: yeah, wide enough net
(03/26 17:27:40) Calum Traveler: the issue is just reaching the people who are down here already
(03/26 17:27:42) Minasunda:

(03/26 17:27:47) Calum Traveler: some folks just dont *know* there's things happening.
(03/26 17:27:57) Calum Traveler: ive had some bizzare convos with folks,
(03/26 17:28:15) Calum Traveler: and that's even before we touch on the population growth we have been seeing
(03/26 17:28:29) Calum Traveler: small measures every month, but large enough in the grand scheme of things
(03/26 17:28:45) Calum Traveler: gotta build a communication base for folks who are here so that we can get things more coordinated for newer folks...
(03/26 17:28:48) Jules Lavisham: Do they know about things like the Kirel podium updates?
(03/26 17:29:04) Calum Traveler: i've been in talks with Chogon about listing stuff on one of the old restoration websites
(03/26 17:29:09) Calum Traveler: people still check those regardless,
(03/26 17:29:24) Jules Lavisham: That'll be very useful
(03/26 17:29:28) Calum Traveler: Kirel Podium is another thing I intend to put some messages out on
(03/26 17:29:29) Jules Lavisham: A one-stop reference shop
(03/26 17:29:40) Calum Traveler: yeah, get one of the first places people look up to date
(03/26 17:29:45) Calum Traveler: then we can branch out from there
(03/26 17:30:02) Calum Traveler: Chogon's gotta wrangle the server admin info from the guy who holds it currently though,
(03/26 17:30:10) Jules Lavisham: Somewhere you can have age restorers profiles, age progress reports
(03/26 17:30:13) Calum Traveler: so, im waiting to hear back on that.
(03/26 17:30:17) Jules Lavisham: Link to the forum, maybe
(03/26 17:30:23) Calum Traveler: yeah, ive had many thoughts on that
(03/26 17:30:26) Calum Traveler: Forums, the Discords,
(03/26 17:30:32) Jules Lavisham: Ah yes, the discords
(03/26 17:30:33) Calum Traveler: Gome.Org
(03/26 17:30:36) Calum Traveler: etc,
(03/26 17:30:44) Jules Lavisham: Perhaps some kind of blog aggregator
(03/26 17:30:53) Calum Traveler: aye, like the old "uruBlogs" website
(03/26 17:30:59) Calum Traveler misses the happier days...
(03/26 17:31:02) Jules Lavisham: Yes, quite so
(03/26 17:31:15) Calum Traveler: im happy to see the forums getting some use though
(03/26 17:31:28) Calum Traveler: for a while there it felt like it was just me and kelsei talking at eachothber
(03/26 17:31:34) Jules Lavisham: Mmm. I had a feeling they would come into their own
(03/26 17:31:41) Jules Lavisham: These things always take time
(03/26 17:32:00) Calum Traveler: yeah.
(03/26 17:32:11) Calum Traveler: i just was hoping to get things in place before folks started complaining
(03/26 17:32:15) Jules Lavisham: But once the momentum starts to build, it can pick up the pace fantastically quickly
(03/26 17:32:25) Calum Traveler grumbles about delays on the Marker errors investigations...
(03/26 17:32:37) Calum Traveler: tell me about it
(03/26 17:32:51) Jules Lavisham: Well, don't feel pressured to pick up the pace just because more pairs of eyes are on us
(03/26 17:32:55) Calum Traveler: i think ive had as many conversations about administration stuff this month alone as i have in the previous six combined
(03/26 17:33:24) Calum Traveler: atleast we got the Er'cana City Silo marker sorted out.
(03/26 17:33:43) Jules Lavisham: Things have been chugging along nicely in the last couple of years. You don't have to deliver immediate results all of a sudden.
(03/26 17:33:45) Calum Traveler: so that's working again, atleast...
(03/26 17:33:55) Calum Traveler: as folks keep reminding me, jules
(03/26 17:33:58) Calum Traveler: slow and steady
(03/26 17:34:11) Jules Lavisham: Absolutely. We're in this for the long haul.
(03/26 17:34:16) Calum Traveler nods